TITLE	SOUND QUALTIY	TAPER	RECORDING EQUIPMENT (SOURCE)	TRANSFER	# OF DISCS	NOTES
March 26, 2005	Los Angeles, California	Sports Arena	Dress Rehearsal
March 28, 2005	San Diego, California	iPayOne Center
Vertigo Tour - Opening Night	Excellent Plus Audience	chrisedge	Sound Professional AT933 Hyper Cardioids > Sound Pro Battery Box (Roll off @ 107Hz) > Sony PCM-M1 (@ 44.1khz)	Sound Professional AT933 Hyper Cardioids > Sound Pro Battery Box (Roll off @ 107Hz) > Sony PCM-M1 (@ 44.1khz)	2 CDR
Neon Hearts	Excellent Audience			CD Silver Bootleg > cda > dbpowerAmp > Flac > Wav > CDR	2 CDR	Commercial bootleg: The Godfatherecords
U2 in San Diego: March 28, 2005	Excellent Audience	Cherico	MM-LHSC01 > MM-EBM-1 > D8		2 CDR	DO NOT TORRENT (taper's request)
Vertigo: San Diego First Night	Excellent Audience			DAT > CDR	2 CDR
U2 - San Diego - March 28, 2005	Video: 9/10   Audio: 9/10	VIDEO RJPass JAM u2rulesmyworld Eliv8 AUDIO chrisedge	VIDEO Sony TRV340 20x Sony PC1000 10x Sony HC21 20x Olympus C-770 digital camera 10x AUDIO Sound Professional AT933 Hyper Cardioids > Sound Pro Battery Box (Roll off @ 107Hz) > Sony PCM-M1 (@ 44.1khz)		1 DVD	VertVideo Project 4 Cam Mix
U2 Vertigo Tour San Diego 28th March 2005	Video: 9/10   Audio: 9/10	Video: RJPass Audio: chrisedge	Video: Sony TRV340 20x Audio: Sound Professional AT933 Hyper Cardioids > Sound Pro Battery Box (Roll off @ 107Hz) > Sony PCM-M1 (@ 44.1khz)	master DV > DVD > ripped > mixed with chrisedge audio > DVD	1 DVD	Mixed by olli
Vertigo Tour Opening Night	Video: 9/10   Audio: 9/10	RJPass	Sony TRV340 20x		1 DVD
	DVD
March 30, 2005	San Diego, California	iPayOne Center
Vertigo San Diego - Night Two	Excellent Plus Audience	Edgar	AT831 > SP-SPSB-2 > M1	M1 > oade active cable > monster coax > emagic emi 2/6 > soundforge 6.0 > cdwave > mkw	2 CDR
U2 in San Diego: March 30, 2005	Excellent Audience	Cherico	MM-LHSC01 > MM-EBM-1 > D8		2 CDR	DO NOT TORRENT (taper's request)
U2//San Diego 3.30.05 [5 Cam Mix]	Video: 9/10   Audio: 9/10	VIDEO Kevin Ricardo AUDIO B.A. Baracus	VIDEO unknown Canon ZR70 40x unknown Sony DSC-M1 Olympus DSC AUDIO AT831 > SP-SPSC-1 > JB3	VIDEO source not specified > miniDV > AVI Canon ZR70 40x > Digital8 Clone > AVI source not specified > Digital8 Clone > AVI Sony DSC-M1 > MP4 Olympus DSC > MP4 AUDIO AT831 > SP-SPSC-1 > JB3 > FLAC	1 DVD	VertVideo Project 5 Cam Mix
U2 Vertigo Tour San Diego 30th March 2005	Video: 9/10   Audio: 9/10	Video: unknown Audio: Edgar	Video: unknown Audio: AT831 > SP-SPSB-2 > M1		1 DVD	mixed by olli
Vertigo: Second Night in San Diego	Video: 9/10   Audio: 8/10				1 DVD	3 Cam Mix
April 1, 2005	Anaheim, California	Anaheim Pond
Vertigo Anaheim - Night One	Excellent Plus Audience	Edgar	AT831 > SP-SPSB-2 (rolloff @ 107mHz) > M1	M1 > oade active cable > monster coax > emagic emi 2/6 > soundforge 6.0 > cdwave > mkw	2 CDR
U2 - Anaheim - April 1, 2005	Video: 9/10   Audio: 9/10				1 DVD	VertVideo Project 4 Cam Mix
	DVD
April 2, 2005	Anaheim, California	Anaheim Pond
Vertigo Anaheim - Night Two	Excellent Plus Audience	Edgar	AT831 > SP-SPSB-2 (rolloff @ 107mHz) > M1	M1 > oade active cable > monster coax > emagic emi 2/6 > soundforge 6.0 > cdwave > mkw	2 CDR
Vertigo Anaheim 2 IEM	Excellent Soundboard	MarkP		Master > CDR > EAC > Soundforge > Flac with SBA level 8 > Wav > CDR	2 CDR	Remastered by BogusPomp
		Bono's earpiece
VertVideo Anaheim - Night Two	Video: 10/10   Audio: 10/10	VIDEO JAM u2rulesmyworld AUDIO Edgar	VIDEO Sony PC 1000 (20x) Sony HC 21 (20x/40x) AUDIO AT831 > SP-SPSB-2 (rolloff @ 107mHz) > M1		1 DVD	VertVideo Project 2 Cam Mix
	DVD
April 5, 2005	Los Angeles, California	Staples Center
Vertigo Los Angeles - Night One	Excellent Audience	Bob S.	Sonic Studios PL6 cardiods> custom bass roll off 6db 100hz > M1 w/custom pre amp	Tascam DA60 AES > Yamaha 03D mixer SPDIF > audigy2 > Sound Forge7: bass shelf at 40hz to remove subsonic bass, Durrough compression 4:1 at 160hz 2db boost to bring out kick drum, mastering compressor for overall leveling 2:1 threshold at –20db > CDWave > Flac (Level 8)	2 CDR
Vertigo in L.A.	Excellent Audience				2 CDR	Commercial bootleg: Irish Folk Company and U2 for Classic Records
U2 Live on April 5, 2005 at Staples Center	Video: 8-10/10   Audio: 9/10	VIDEO: unrulesmyworld AUDIO: EF	VIDEO: Sony HC21, 20x AUDIO: MarcSound mics > Sony M-1 DAT		1 DVD	VertVideo Project
	DVD
April 6, 2005	Los Angeles, California	Staples Center
Vertigo Los Angeles - Night Two	Excellent Audience	Jon Koch	Schoeps MK4 > active cables > Nbox > Nomad Jukebox 3	Creative Nomad Jukebox 3 > SB1394 (Firewire) > Wav > Soundforge 7.0b > wav > CD Wave > Wav > FLAC frontend 1.7.1 > FLAC	2 CDR
Vertigo: L.A. Second Night	Excellent Audience	Josephine	Schoeps MK41s > actives > Nbox > D100		2 CDR
U2 - Staples Center - Los Angeles, CA - April 6, 2005	Video: 10/10   Audio: 9/10				1 DVD	VertVideo Project 5 Cam Mix
April 9, 2005	San Jose, California	HP Pavilion
Vertigo San Jose - Night One	Excellent Audience		Schoeps MK4s > active cables > Nbox > SBM-1 > PCM-M1	Fostex D5 > S/PDIF > DIO2448 > Soundforge 7.0b > shntool 3.0.2 > flac 1.1.1	2 CDR
Vertigo: San Jose First Night	Very Good Audience	guidissimo	Sound Professionals Binaurals (Croakie mount) > Sound Pro Battery Box (Roll off @ 95Hz) > Sony D8 (@ 44.1khz)	Optical > SB Live > Soundforge XP > CDWav > mkw Audio Compression (SHN) > CDR	2 CDR
Vertigo - 4/9/05 - San Jose, CA	Video: 10/10   Audio: 9/10			Master digital video > CDR	2 DVD
	DVD
April 10, 2005	San Jose, California	HP Pavilion
Vertigo: San Jose Second Night	Excellent Audience	guidissimo	Sound Professionals Binaurals (Croakie mount) > Sound Pro Battery Box (Roll off @ 95Hz) > Sony D8 (@ 44.1khz)	D8 >  SPDIF > SB Live > Soundforge XP > CDWav > mkw Audio Compression (SHN) > CDR	2 CDR
U2 - San Jose - 4/10/05	Video: 9/10   Audio: 8/10	Deuce8pro	Sony Hi8 (2x lens) > ECM 717 Mic	Hi8mm master > DVD	1 DVD
	DVD
April 14, 2005	Glendale, Arizona	Glendale Arena
Vertigo: Glendale First Night	Excellent Plus Audience	S.N.	Core Sound Binaurals > Sony M1	Sony M1> Sony standalone > CD-R(0) > Sony standalone > CD-R(1) > secure EAC range extraction > CD WAVE Editor reindexing > WAV > FLAC Frontend level 6 w/ tags > FLAC > WAV > CD-R(2)	2 CDR
Vertigo Glendale 1 - Edgar Master	Excellent Audience	Edgar	AT831 > SP-SPSB-2 (rolloff @ 107mHz) > M1 @ 44.1	Sony PCM-R300 > Monster optical > Prodif 32 > Soundforge 6.0 > Cdwave > mkw > shn	2 CDR
Vertigo - 4/14/05 - Glendale, AZ	Video: 10/10   Audio: 9/10			Master digital video (XP mode) > DVD	3 DVD
	DVD
Black Wind, White Land	Video: 9/10   Audio: 9/10			likely Master digital video (XP mode) > DVD > mpeg > compressed > DVD	1 DVD
	DVD
April 15, 2005	Glendale, Arizona	Glendale Arena
Vertigo: Glendale Second Night	Excellent Plus Audience	S.N.	Core Sound Binaurals > Sony M1	Sony M1> Sony standalone > CD-R(0) > Sony standalone > CD-R(1) > secure EAC range extraction > CD WAVE Editor reindexing > WAV > FLAC Frontend level 6 w/ tags > FLAC > WAV > CD-R(2)	2 CDR
Vertigo Glendale 2 - Edgar Master	Excellent Audience	Edgar	AT831 > SP-SPSB-2 (rolloff @ 107mHz) > M1 @ 44.1	Sony PCM-R300 > Monster optical > Prodif 32 > Soundforge 6.0 > Cdwave > mkw > shn	2 CDR
Vertigo Glendale - Night Two	Excellent Audience	chrisedge	Sound Professional AT933 Hyper Cardioids > Sound Pro Battery Box (Roll off @ 107Hz) > Sony PCM-M1 (@ 44.1khz)	Sony PCM-M1 > Core-Sounds 7 Pin to Coax > Zoltrix Nightingale Pro 6 > Cool Edit (Normalized and fades) > CDWav	2 CDR
Vertigo - 4/15/05 - Glendale, AZ	Video: 10/10   Audio: 9/10			Master digital video (XP mode) > DVD	3 DVD
	DVD
April 20, 2005	Denver, Colorado	Pepsi Center
Vertigo: Denver First Night	Excellent Audience		AKG c480b 70Hz 0db > PS1 > AD20 > M1	Master > CDR > EAC > SHN > WAV > CDR	2 CDR
U2 in Denver - April 20, 2005	Very Good Audience		Schoeps MK4s > unknown recorder		2 CDR
						DO NOT TORRENT
U2 Live at the Pepsi Center	Video: 7/10   Audio: 8/10	Video: Dr. J Audio: Twistertapes	Video: unknown handycam with monopod Audio: MK4 > DAT		2 DVD
	DVD
April 21, 2005	Denver, Colorado	Pepsi Center
April 24, 2005	Seattle, Washington	Key Arena
Vertigo Seattle 1 Matrix by Thir13en	VG ALD + EX Audience	Sean robertd	ALD: Receiver > Sony D8 Audience: Schoeps MK4s (DINA in hat) > Nbox > Oade line mod SBM-1@44.1 kHz > Sony PCM-M1	ALD: Tascam Da-20 MkII > Emagic Adiowerk2 > FLAC Audience: Tascam DA-20 MkII>Emagic Audiowerk2>CD Wave Editor>FLAC Frontend 1.7.1	2 CDR	Mixed by Thir13en
Vertigo Seattle - 24/4/05	Excellent Audience	Hiro			2 CDR	DO NOT TORRENT (taper's request)
Vertigo Seattle - Night One	Excellent Audience	robertd	Schoeps MK4s (DINA in hat) > Nbox > Oade line mod SBM-1@44.1 kHz > Sony PCM-M1	Tascam DA-20 MkII>Emagic Audiowerk2>CD Wave Editor>FLAC Frontend 1.7.1	2 CDR
April 25, 2005	Seattle, Washington	Key Arena
Vertigo Seattle - 25/4/05	Excellent Audience	Hiro	DSM6S > PA-6&LC3 > Sony TCD100		2 CDR	DO NOT TORRENT (taper's request)
Vertigo Seattle - Night Two	Excellent Audience	robertd	Schoeps MK4s (DINA in hat) > Nbox > Oade line mod SBM-1@44.1 kHz > Sony PCM-M1	Tascam DA-20 MkII>Emagic Audiowerk2>CD Wave Editor>FLAC Frontend 1.7.1	2 CDR
Vertigo: Seattle Second Night	Good Audience	kevinfor@earthlink.net	Peavy PVM-328 mic > Tascam DA-P1		2 CDR
April 28, 2005	Vancouver, Canada	GM Place
U2: Call Prime Minister Martin at 613-992-4211 (Birdman Remaster II)	Excellent Audience	MGT	Core Sound Cardioid > Sony D8 (@44.1kHz)	7-pin plugged to soundcard > CD Wave > CD > SHN > Adobe Audition > CD > Yamaha DM1000 > CD	2 CDR	Remastered by Birdman
U2: Call Prime Minister Martin at 613-992-4211	Very Good Audience	MGT	Core Sound Cardioid > Sony D8 (@44.1kHz)	7-pin plugged to soundcard > CD Wave > CD > SHN	2 CDR
Vertigo: Vancouver First Night	Very Good Audience	Sean Gursky	SP-CMC-2 (AT831) > SPSB-1 - Bass rolloff at 107MhZ > JB3 (wav at 44.1k)	JB3 > Firewire > FLAC Frontend	2 CDR
April 28 & April 29, 2005	Vancouver, Canada	GM Place
A Place Called Vertigo - Remastered by Fradoca	Excellent ALD			CD silvers > EAC > WAV > Fradoca Remastering > Flac 6	2 CDR	Remastered by Francesco Donadel
A Place Called Vertigo	Very Good ALD				2 CDR	Commercial bootleg: Extravaganza Records incomplete
Hola Vancouver!	VG ALD + VG Aud	unknown MJT	unknown Core Sound Cardioid > Sony D8 (@ 44.1kHz)	unknown 7-pin plugged to soundcard > CD Wave > CD > SHN	2 CDR	Mixed by Randy5554
April 29, 2005	Vancouver, Canada	GM Place
U2: 0.7%...The Spirit of Lester B. Pearson	Very Good Audience	MGT	Core Sound Cardiod > Sony D8 (@44.1kHz)	7-pin plugged to soundcard > CD Wave > CD > SHN	2 CDR
Vertigo: Vancouver Second Night	Very Good Audience	Sean Gursky	SP-CMC-2 (AT831) > SPSB-1 - Bass rolloff at 107MhZ > JB3 (wav at 44.1k)	JB3 > Firewire > FLAC Frontend	2 CDR
A Place Called Vertigo	Very Good ALD				2 CDR	Commercial bootleg: Extravaganza Records incomplete
Hola Vancouver!	VG ALD + VG Aud	unknown MJT	unknown Core Sound Cardioid > Sony D8 (@ 44.1kHz)	unknown 7-pin plugged to soundcard > CD Wave > CD > SHN	2 CDR	Mixed by Randy5554
May 7, 2005	Chicago, Illinois	United Center
Vertigo Chicago - Night One	Excellent Plus Audience	J. Parkin	DSM6 > PA-6LC3 > M1	M1 > Digi coax > delta Dio 2496 > Wave-Cool Edit Pro > Flac Front End > FLAC > WAV > CDR	2 CDR
U2 Live In Chicago 05.07.2005	Video: 9/10   Audio: 9/10	VIDEO u2rulesmyworld djsohl WTHSNN AUDIO J. Parkin	VIDEO Sony PC1000 20x Sony HC21 20x Sony M1 Digicam 3x AUDIO DSM6 > PA-6LC3 > M1	VIDEO master digital videos > digital clones + master digicam footage > mpeg4	1 DVD	VertVideo Project
	DVD
May 9, 2005	Chicago, Illinois	United Center
Vertigo Chicago - Night Two	Excellent Audience	J. Parkin	DSM6 > PA-6LC3 > M1	M1 > Digi coax > delta Dio 2496 > Wave-Cool Edit Pro > Flac Front End > FLAC > WAV > CDR	2 CDR
U2 - United Cener - Chicago, Illinois - May 9, 2005	Video: 9/10   Audio: 9/10	VIDEO u2rulesmyworld jamhead64 djsohl AUDIO J. Parkin	VIDEO Sony PC1000 20x Sony HC21 20x Sony M1 Digicam 640x480 30fps AUDIO DSM6 > PA-6LC3 > M1		1 DVD	VertVideo Project
May 9, 2005 and May 10, 2005	Chicago, Illinois	United Center
U2//Vertigo 2005// Live From Chicago	Excellent Soundboard				2 Discs	audio rip from official DVD
May 10, 2005	Chicago, Illinois	United Center
Vertigo: Chicago Third Night	Excellent Audience	Dudzik	AT853C > battery box > D8		2 CDR	DO NOT TORRENT (taper's request)
CD Dragon's U2 GMA Encode	Excellent Soundboard	Cdragon		Digital Cable Feed > Motorola PVR > Audigy 2 > Adobe Auditions 1.5 > 4dB Boost > Wav > Flac > CDR	1 CDR
GMA Summer Concert Series; U2	Video: 10/10   Audio: 10/10				1 DVD	incomplete - contains only "Vertigo", "Beautiful Day", "SYCMIOYO", "Elevation", interviews
May 12, 2005	Chicago, Illinois	United Center
Coexist	Excellent Audience	JustAGirl	AT831's > batt box (w/bass rolloff set at 107 mHz) > Nomad JB3	JB3 > USB > Screenblast Sound Forge 7.0 > CDWave > shntool > shorten > SHN > (WAV > Remastered) ? > CD silver bootleg > cda > dbPowerAmp > flac	2 CDR	Commercial bootleg: The Godfatherecords
Vertigo Chicago - Night Four	Excellent Audience	JustAGirl	AT831's > batt box (w/bass rolloff set at 107 mHz) > Nomad JB3	JB3 > USB > Screenblast Sound Forge 7.0 > CDWave > shntool > shorten > SHN	2 CDR
Vertigo: Chicago Fourth Night	Very Good Audience	Dudzik	AT853C > battery box > D8		2 CDR	DO NOT TORRENT (taper's request)
5.12.2005 Chicago	Video: 8/10   Audio: 9/10				1 DVD
	DVD
May 14, 2005	Philadelphia, Pennsylvania	Wachovia Center
Something I Can Feel	Excellent Plus Audience	Anonymous	AT831 mics > HDD recorder	HDD recorder > USB > WAV > WavPack > WAV > Audition ** > CDWAVE > FLAC (level 8) > WAV > CDR	2 CDR
Vertigo Philadelphia - Night One	Excellent Audience		AT831> roll off @ 107 > Edirol R1		2 CDR
Vertigo Philadelphia 1 - JLW Master	Excellent Audience	JLW	Sonic Studios DSM6s > PA-6LC > Sony M1 DAT	DAT > Egosys2496 (digital in) (no EQ, raw transfer) > FLAC	2 CDR
Vertigo 05 - Philadelphia - 05.14.05	Video: 9/10   Audio: 7/10				1 DVD	incomplete - "One" through "40" are from May 17, 2005 (E. Rutherford)
May 17, 2005	E. Rutherford, New Jersey	Contintental Airlines Arena
Vertigo East Rutherford - Night One	Very Good Audience	Very Good Audience	2 Discs		2 CDR
East Rutherford, NJ 17/05/2005 2 Cam + DAT audio	Video: 9/10   Audio: 9/10	Video: unknown Audio: Austin Tobin	Video: unknown Audio: SS DSM6s/l > PA6-LC2 (85khz) > D100		1 DVD	mixed by Achtungpop
U2 East Rutherford 17-05-2005	Video: 9/10   Audio: 9/10				1 DVD	2 Cam Mix
	DVD
05.17.05 New Jersey	Video: 9/10   Audio: 9/10				1 DVD
	DVD
U2 - 5/17/05 - Meadowlands	Video: 9/10   Audio: 8/10	Very Good Audience			1 DVD
	DVD
May 18, 2005	E. Rutherford, New Jersey	Continental Airlines Arena
Vertigo East Rutherford - Night Two	Excellent Audience	Baker	Core Sound Binaurals w/ bass rolloff > Sony D8	Phillips CDR > Extracted with CD Creator > CD Wave > FLAC Frontend	2 CDR
May 21, 2005	New York, New York	Madison Square Garden
Vertigo - New York City	Excellent Audience	Baker D.F.	Core Sound Binaurals w/ bass roll-off > Sony D8 Studio Sonic DSM L Mics > Sony D7 DAT (44.1 mhz)	Phillips CDR > Extracted with CD Creator > CD Wave > FLAC Frontend D7 line out > PC EAC Wav > DC ART > mkw shn	2 CDR	D.F. recording used for last 3 songs
Vertigo - NYC - 5/21/05	Excellent Audience	D.F.	Studio Sonic DSM L Mics > Sony D7 DAT (44.1 mhz)	D7 line out > PC EAC Wav > DC ART > mkw shn	2 CDR
Vertigo MSG - First Leg	Excellent Audience		Sony NetMD Recorder MZ-N10 > Core Sound Stealthy Cardioid Microphones	Core Sound Stealthy Cardioid Microphones > Core Sound Battery Box - Bass Roll Off Filter > Sony NetMD Recorder MZ-N10 > Maxell CD-R Music74 > Sound Blaster Pro > Cool Edit Pro 2 > WAV > mkwACT v0.97 bet 1 > SHN	2 CDR
May 22, 2005	Philadelphia, Pennsylvania	Wachovia Center
Vertigo Philadelphia - Night Two	Excellent Audience	Austin Tobin	SS DSM6S/1 > PA-LC2 > D100		2 CDR
U2 5/22/05	Video: 10/10   Audio: 9/10	Passengr57@gmail.com		Master MiniDV > DVD	1 DVD	incomplete - most of LAPOE, all of RTSS, all of One, all of 40, bonus clips
May 24, 2005	Boston, Massachusetts	Fleet Center
Vertigo: Boston First Night	Excellent Audience	D.F. Daveydave	Studio Sonic DSM L > Sony D7 DAT Mics AT933 > Bat Box SP-SPSB-6 (ran flat for power) > HI-MD MZ-NH900	D7 line out PC WAV (tracking and fade) > DC ART EQ 64 and 127> MKT Tool SHN Line out > PC WAV > CDR > EAC > DC ART EQ 64 and 127 > MKT SHN	2 CDR	daveydave recording used for last 6 songs
Vertigo Boston - 24/5/05	Excellent Audience	massu2	OKMIIr > A3 > D100	D100 > 7 PIN CABLE > PHILIPS CDR775 >  EAC Ver. 0.9 > WAV > CEP 2.0 > CDWAVE > mkw Audio Compression (SHN)	2 CDR	Remastered by daveydave
U2 in Boston: May 24, 2005	Excellent Audience	Cherico	MM-LHSC01 > MM-EBM-1 > D8		2 CDR	DO NOT TORRENT (taper's request)
May 26, 2005	Boston, Massachusetts	Fleet Center
Faith In the Future	Excellent Audience	daveydave	AT933s > SP-SPSB-6 (flat) > MZ-NH900 (PCM WAV no compression)	Sonic Stage > OMA > Hi-MD Renderer > WAV > COOL EDIT PRO 2.0 > CDWAVE > mkw Audio Compression (SHN)	2 CDR
U2 in Boston: May 26, 2005	Excellent Audience	Cherico	MM-LHSC01 > MM-EBM-1 > D8		2 CDR	DO NOT TORRENT (taper's request)
Vertigo: Boston Second Night	Very Good Audience	Mike Ortega	AT831s > SP-SPSB-1 > (line-in) MZ-N505	MZ-N505 > Soundblaster Live Platinum 5.1 (line-in) > Audacity > wav > CD Wave > flac	2 CDR
May 28, 2005	Boston, Massachusetts	Fleet Center
Vertigo Boston - Night Three	Excellent Audience	Baker	Core Sound Binaurals w/ bass roll-off > Sony D8	Sony D8 > Phillips CDR880 > Extracted with CD Creator > CD Wave > FLAC Frontend	2 CDR
U2 in Boston: May 28, 2005	Excellent Audience	Cherico	MM-LHSC01 > MM-EBM-1 > D8		2 CDR	DO NOT TORRENT (taper's request)